The Lost Song of Wade.

Monday, 21 July 2025 20:03
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Seb Falk and James Wade (no relation) have published an open-access paper in the Review of English Studies, The Lost Song of Wade: Peterhouse 255 Revisited, that is usefully summarized in Stephen Castle’s NY Times article (archived):

Geoffrey Chaucer, often regarded as the first great poet in English, drops references at two points in his works to an older poem or story, the Tale of Wade, that seems to have needed no explanation in his own time but has since all but disappeared. The one surviving fragment — a few lines of verse quoted in a 12th-century sermon and rediscovered in the 1890s — only left scholars more puzzled.

Now, two Cambridge University academics, James Wade (whose family name is coincidentally shared with the tale) and Seb Falk, believe they may have unlocked the riddle by correcting a mishap that remains familiar to publishers almost a millennium later. Call it a medieval typo. The fragment seemed to refer to a man alone among elves and other eerie creatures — something from the story of a mythological giant, or of a heroic character like Beowulf who battled supernatural monsters. […]

The new research, published on Wednesday in Britain in “The Review of English Studies,” suggests that the “elves” sprang from a linguistic error by a scribe, who miscopied a word that should have meant “wolves,” and that Wade in fact belonged to a chivalric world of knights and courtly love — much more relevant to Chaucerian verse. […]

Richard North, a professor of English language and literature at University College London, said the authors’ analysis of the 12th-century verse made a good case about the nature of Wade. “I think they are right that he must be a knight from a lost romance rather than a giant from English folklore,” he said.

Others were more circumspect about the implications of the study. Stephanie Trigg, a professor of English literature at the University of Melbourne, Australia, said she was “persuaded by the reading of wolves (not elves)” and said the analysis contained “lots and lots of fascinating details and contexts,” but said: “I’d be cautious about claiming this is a revolutionary way of understanding Chaucer.”

The verses were discovered in 1896 by M. R. James, author of “Oh, Whistle, and I’ll Come to You My Lad” (see this LH post, wherein I report my discovery of the word ontography); he put elves and adders into the translated version, but:

The new study concludes that the sermon’s scribe confused a runic letter that was still found in Middle English, and pronounced ‘w,’ with the letter ‘y.’ That, it says, turned “wlves” into “ylves.” The scholars also argue that the word formerly translated as sprites, “nikeres,” refers to sea snakes. Drawing on the Latin text around it, they suggest the passage concerns beastly human behavior, translating it as follows:

Some are wolves and some are adders; some are sea snakes that dwell by the water. There is no man at all but Hildebrand.

“Here were three lines apparently talking about elves and sea monsters which exactly puts you in this world of Beowulf and other Teutonic legends,” said Dr. Wade. “What we realized is that there are no elves in this passage, there are no sea monsters and, in the study of the handwriting, everyone has gotten it wrong until now.”

(We discussed nicors/nixies back in 2014.) Not earthshaking, but I can’t help feeling pleasure at getting rid of the bloody elves.

Translation Comparison: The White Guard.

Sunday, 20 July 2025 20:12
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I love translation comparisons, and Erik McDonald’s XIX век has another one (cf. last year’s Translation Comparison: Fathers and Sons), confronting the three English translations of Bulgakov’s Белая гвардия (The White Guard): those by Michael Glenny (1971), Marian Schwartz (2008), and Roger Cockrell (2012). He breaks his post into sections titled Medieval Kyivan allusions, How Nai-Turs and Talberg speak, Ukrainian speech in the Russian text, Characters trying to Ukrainianize themselves, Things doing things, Dividing the novel into parts, and Shattering the City; most of them are self-explanatory, but the fourth one focuses on the “whale” (кит/кіт) passage I mention at the end of my own post on the novel, and the last is about allusions to the Book of Revelation — he links to “Is Apocalyptic Kiev Still Apocalyptic Kiev in English Translations of Mikhail Bulgakov’s Novel The White Guard?” (Sic 10.2 [April 2020], open access) by Petra Žagar-Šoštarić and Natalia Kaloh Vid, which I found extremely interesting:

Our analysis of allusions in The White Guard is based on allusions to the apocalyptic prophecy as presented in the Book of Revelation[7] and, more precisely, to the parts relating to the depiction of New Jerusalem and Babylon. In what follows, we will examine thematic key-phrase allusions to the Book of Revelation[8] that contextualize the City and discuss how and if these allusions have been rendered in the translations. We will also consider whether the preferred strategy makes it possible for readers to identify the connotations of the allusions. The first question that naturally arises is that it is debatable how familiar the Book of Revelation is to present-day readers. Presumably, cultural products (e.g. films, songs, and paintings) embedded certain key elements such as the Whore of Babylon, Apocalyptic Beast, The Day of Judgement, or Apocalyptic Horses in the public consciousness, and these are hence often used allusively. However, we assume that there are less familiar textual elements such as details of New Jerusalem. It is impossible to speculate about how familiar English readers are with the Book of Revelation or to what extent the translators recognized apocalyptic allusions in the text. Hence, we suppose that some key-phrase allusions, such as the reference to the number of the apocalyptic beast, the Red star, sharp sword, gardens, and Judgement day are more familiar and evoke immediate association in the translators and readers, while others, such as precious stones, pearls, light, glass, and other features of New Jerusalem may be less obvious. In our opinion, the latter group of allusions would pose more problems for translators.

Erik singles out a passage that I too found striking:

Bulgakov tends to give the reader a sharp delineation between the City as an oasis of peace and beauty, a domestic zone that represents safety and is associated with the pre-revolutionary lifestyle and values, and the alien zone of the City’s outskirts and countryside, the steppe, as the embodiment of barbarianism, violence, and danger. What should be clear from this short passage is that the City is in danger, surrounded by purely demonizing forces. On the other hand, Bulgakov introduces the City as a beautiful, fragile, crystal-like place, establishing a key link with New Jerusalem. With the verb разбить/to break, combined with осколки/shards, the author employs an allusion to New Jerusalem, which is depicted as being made of glass […].

The comparison to glass is crucial for the successful recognition of this allusion. All three translators used different verbs, employing the strategy of reduced meaning, to render the original verb разбить, which means “to shatter/to break,” and in Russian is used primarily when referring to smashing glass or ice. Cockrell’s option “to destroy” is perhaps less successful, as it does not transfer the original’s connotation of breaking glass. The noun осколки (shards) intensifies the image of the City as vulnerable and fragile – as easily broken as glass. It is interesting that none of the translators opted for the strategy of literal translation with the word ‘shards’. The alternative translations with reduced meaning seem to fail in conveying the right connotations based on comparing the City to crystal and glass as in the Book of Revelation. Schwartz’s option “shreds” would be more appropriate for referring to paper or paper-like material and maybe thin fabric, while “remnants” are usually garments, fabric and sometimes flesh but never glass. Cockrell’s “rubble” also does not transfer the original meaning as it is commonly used for concrete, blocks, bricks, and stone. Another significant omission in Cockrell’s translation is the noun покой/peace, which was rendered by other translators as “tranquillity” and “peace.” Schwartz’s choice of “tranquillity” also implies serenity, an important connotation attached to the Russian original, while “peaceful,” though correct, is further from the original meaning.

If those samples intrigue you, I urge you to read both the post (a more general account) and the article (focusing on the biblical allusions); me, I think I was too hard on the novel when I read it a few years ago and I should really give it another go.

Episode 2650: A Wing and a Player

Sunday, 20 July 2025 09:11
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Episode 2650: A Wing and a Player

Being a villain is mostly about being cool. If you can't be cool, why be a villain, after all? This means you have to do things with a certain panache, and damn the consequences.

However, coolness is often the downfall of a villain. Just think about all those Batman villains. They're too cool for their own good.

The corollary of this is that when you come across a villain who isn't cool, you should really start to worry.

aurilee writes:

Commentary by memnarch (who has not seen the movie)

Whoa! That's a pretty cool move! Definitely something I'd expect Pete to pull off. It makes a bit more sense why Rey is his character now.

Not the "reducing the relative speed" part to have no sonic boom though. That sounds like complete nonsense as it wouldn't change the speed of sound on this planet or how fast the starfighter is flying. And even Force Run or some equivalent wouldn't make that much of a difference. Even if you can double your speed to match an Olympic sprinter, that's still only a change from like 1.5% to 3% of the speed of sound.

And of course Kylo is dumb enough to try and just ram Rey to begin with. He could have used some more lessons from Snoke. The overlap between cool villains and effective villains is very easy to miss. Maybe Palpaclone can offer some advice before they get killed.

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Under the X, the Y.

Saturday, 19 July 2025 20:05
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I was reading Daniella Shreir’s LRB Diary: What happens at Cannes (10 Jul 2025; archived) when I was struck by a turn of French phrase in this passage:

Some form of disruption looms over the festival every year. Unionised electricity workers, reacting to Macron’s proposed pension reforms, threatened to cut power to venues in 2023, and last year festival workers, organising under the banner of Sous les écrans la dèche (Broke behind the Screens), threatened to withhold their labour until they were given the same rights as other culture workers.

“Sous les écrans la dèche” literally means ‘Under the screens, poverty’ (dèche ‘being broke’ is apparently a clipping of déchéance ‘decay,’ from the same Latin word as decadence), but to me it irresistibly called to mind the famous 1968 slogan « Sous les pavés, la plage ! » ‘Under the paving stones, the beach!’ (Although I learn from the French Wikipedia article that that phrase has a complicated and disputed history which depresses me too much to try to disentangle.) What I want to know is this: is that relationship a product of my particular intellectual formation, or would any Frenchperson make the connection? Is it a template, or just a similarly constructed phrase?

Incidentally, it’s always a shock to be reminded that the inaugural Festival de Cannes was supposed to happen in 1939, but it “was cancelled after only one screening (William Dieterle’s Hunchback of Notre Dame): Hitler had just invaded Poland.”

Ancient DNA and Uralic.

Friday, 18 July 2025 19:54
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Christy DeSmith writes for Phys.org about a new DNA study:

Where did Europe’s distinct Uralic family of languages—which includes Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian—come from? New research puts their origins a lot farther east than many thought. The analysis, led by a pair of doctoral candidates working with ancient DNA expert David Reich, integrated genetic data on 180 newly sequenced Siberians with more than 1,000 existing samples covering many continents and about 11,000 years of human history. The results, published in the journal Nature, identify the prehistoric progenitors of two important language families, including Uralic, spoken today by more than 25 million people.

The study finds the ancestors of present-day Uralic speakers living about 4,500 years ago in northeastern Siberia, within an area now known as Yakutia. […]

Linguists and archaeologists have been split on the origins of Uralic languages. The mainstream school of thought put their homeland in the vicinity of the Ural Mountains, a range running north to south about 860 miles due east of Moscow. A minority view, noting convergences with Turkic and Mongolic languages, theorized a more easterly emergence. “Our paper helps show that the latter scenario is more likely,” said co-lead author Tian Chen (T.C.) Zeng, who earned his Ph.D. this spring from the Department of Human Evolutionary Biology. “We can see this genetic pulse coming from the east just as Uralic languages were expanding.”

The discovery was made possible by Kim’s long-term effort to gather ancient DNA data from some of Siberia’s under-sampled regions. As he helped establish, many modern-day Uralic-speaking populations carry the same genetic signature that first appeared, in unmixed form, in the 4,500-year-old samples from Yakutia. People from all other ethnolinguistic groups were found, by and large, to lack this distinct ancestry.

I look forward to the reactions of our resident language-and-DNA mavens. Thanks, Stephen!

Etymology Nerd.

Thursday, 17 July 2025 20:49
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Callie Holtermann writes for the NY Times (archived) about a linguist who posts online as Etymology Nerd and who was mentioned here last year:

Adam Aleksic has been thinking about seggs. Not sex, but seggs — a substitute term that took off a few years ago among those trying to dodge content-moderation restrictions on TikTok. Influencers shared stories from their “seggs lives” and spoke about the importance of “seggs education.”

Lots of similarly inventive workarounds have emerged to discuss sensitive or suggestive topics online. This phenomenon is called algospeak, and it has yielded terms like “cornucopia” for homophobia and “unalive,” a euphemism for suicide that has made its way into middle schoolers’ offline vocabulary.

These words roll off the tongue for Mr. Aleksic, a 24-year-old linguist and content creator who posts as Etymology Nerd on social media. Others may find them slightly bewildering. But, as he argues in a new book, “Algospeak: How Social Media Is Transforming the Future of Language,” these distinctly 21st-century coinages are worthy of consideration by anyone interested in the forces that mold our shifting lexicon.
[…]

Mr. Aleksic has been dissecting slang associated with Gen Z on social media since 2023. In wobbly, breathless videos that are usually about a minute long, he uses his undergraduate degree in linguistics from Harvard to explain the spread of terms including “lowkey” and “gyat.” (If you must know, the latter is a synonym for butt.)

There’s much more at the link, including a discussion of “rizz” (which we talked about in 2023); I was curious about the odd-looking “gyat” and googled, but I’m not convinced by the etymology given here: “Girl Your Ass Is Thick.”

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Episode 2649: The Rights Go Out and I Can’t Be Saved

If your characters get captured, one way to move things along is to be so annoying that the captors just want to be rid of you. If you do this in a game, you have the added opportunity of making your GM so annoyed that they decide to have the captors let you go.

aurilee writes:

Commentary by memnarch (who has not seen the movie)

Well, what good is a Wookiee elocution trick if you can't use it? Interesting that they've got a neck chain on Chewie already. That's either standard issue for capturing beings, which is disturbing, or it's something that was already prepped for capturing the heroes, which means the knights somehow knew where they were. Neither of those bode well for the success of escape in the dilapidated spaceship, which will likely be by the skin of Threepio's teeth.

So will Rey get back to the ship in time to try and escape? Or will she end up getting captured as well to try to keep the party from being split too much. I could see either as something Pete could go for, but for the movie, this feels more like a loss of a friend and a plot device. That will lead to the next part of the movie where getting Chewie and the keyblade back is the short-term goal. Just heading off to Kimchi and hoping for the best would make no sense at all, even from a "we don't know where the plot is going" point of view. But there was the whole Willy Wonka tunnel trip with the hyperjump, so...... no guarantees that won't happen.

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July London meetup

Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:10
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Announcement: the audience for these has changed, so I’m going to do them once every three or four months instead of monthly. So please come to this July one if you’re interested, there won’t be another until probably October.

26th July, 1pm, Royal Festival Hall, Southbank Centre, SE1 8XX.

We will be on Level 2 (the upper levels are closed to non-ticket-holders), but I don’t know exactly where on the floor. It will depend on where we can find a table.

I have shoulder length brown hair, and will have my plush Chthulu which looks like this:



Please obey any rules posted in the venue.

The venue has lifts to all floors and accessible toilets. The accessibility map is here:

Click to access 21539-24-Access-Updated-Access-Map_Proof-2.pdf

The food market outside (side away from the river) is pretty good for all sorts of requirements, and you can also bring food from home, or there are lots of cafes on the riverfront.

Other things to bear in mind:

1. Please make sure you respect people’s personal space and their choices about distancing.

2. We have all had a terrible time for the last four years. Sharing your struggles is okay and is part of what the group is for, but we need to be careful not to overwhelm each other or have the conversation be entirely negative. Where I usually draw the line here is that personal struggles are fine to talk about but political rants are discouraged, but I may have to move this line on the day when I see how things go. Don’t worry, I will tell you!

3. Probably lots of us have forgotten how to be around people (most likely me as well), so here is permission to walk away if you need space. Also a reminder that we will all react differently, so be careful to give others space if they need.

Please RSVP if you’re coming so I know whether or not we have enough people. If there’s no uptake I will cancel a couple of days before.

kate DOT towner AT gmail DOT com

Dhofari Deciphered.

Wednesday, 16 July 2025 15:48
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Soumya Sagar writes for Science about a new decipherment:

Rock faces within the caves and dried riverbeds of Oman’s Dhofar governorate bear nearly 2400-year-old writings that snake across the surface in a mysterious script. For more than a century, these inscriptions—known as the Dhofari script—had defied decipherment. Now, in a study in press at the journal Jaarbericht Ex Oriente Lux, a linguist says he has deciphered the main subtype of the Dhofari script, and has found evidence that its alphabet didn’t originate in southern Arabia.

The enduring enigma of the Dhofari script had led to many theories over the decades, including the fanciful idea that “these were inscriptions by the people of ʿĀd, a lost Arabian tribe mentioned in the Quran,” says study author Ahmad Al-Jallad, a linguist at Ohio State University. Al-Jallad’s new paper marks “the first ever reliable study on this matter” and “has the potential of writing an entirely new page of the history of Arabia,” says Giuliano Castagna, a linguist at Beijing Normal University who was not involved in the work.

Study of the Dhofari script dates back to 1900, when two British archaeologists mentioned the inscriptions in a book on the southern Arabian Peninsula. Three decades later, Bertram Thomas, the first westerner to cross the Empty Quarter—the vast desert that covers much of the southern Arabian Peninsula—described stone monuments in Dhofar that had been marked with the script. Beyond the hills of Dhofar, researchers also found examples of Dhofari in the neighboring al-Mahrah governorate of Yemen, as well as scraped onto rocks on the island of Socotra.

The inscriptions were more or less forgotten until the early 1990s, when Omani epigraphist Ali Maḥāsh al-Shahri teamed up with British epigraphist Geraldine King to thoroughly document the painted inscriptions from the caves in Dhofar. Although they failed to decipher the script, the researchers determined it had two distinct subtypes, which they called Script 1 and Script 2. The new study contains Al-Jallad’s decipherment of Dhofari Script 1, the more common of the two.

While examining al-Shahri and King’s photos of the inscriptions, Al-Jallad noticed that one particular writing from a cave in Dhofar only had about 26 individual symbols, or glyphs, that never repeated. Al-Jallad strongly suspected he wasn’t dealing with a long sentence, but rather an abecedary, a listing of the script’s individual letters akin to our ABCs. A second inscription, with the same glyphs in the same order, solidified his theory. And the same sequence appears, in a snakelike curve, in a third inscription from Duqm, Oman, published in March in the Omani archaeology journal Athar.

To suss out the Dhofari alphabet, Al-Jallad looked at the broadly similar scripts of ancient Yemen and ancient North Arabia, whose alphabets begin with the sequence h-l-ḥ-m and are therefore called halḥam. He reasoned that the Dhofari letters must be in the same order. By matching the Dhofari glyphs with their equivalents in halḥam, Al-Jallad could assign sounds to them and gain the ability to pronounce—and begin to decipher—words of a long-lost language.

Those words hold clues about the people who used the Dhofari script to write their language. For one, this language was not Arabic, but an ancient relative of Oman’s pre-Islamic indigenous languages, which are still spoken today. After closely examining the glyphs’ shapes, Al-Jallad also concluded they most likely descended from those used in a script called Thamudic B. That script was widely used on the northern side of the Arabian Peninsula, in what is today the Saudi Arabian province of Najd, suggesting the letterforms somehow made their way southward into modern-day Oman and Yemen.

(I wonder if the “book on the southern Arabian Peninsula” is Southern Arabia, by James and Mabel Bent?) More at the link; thanks, Dmitry!

Lettervoxd.

Tuesday, 15 July 2025 18:38
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Josh Sucher writes:

Last week, my brother and I took in a screening of the 1976 classic Network that just happened to be captioned. As a result, it really struck me how impressive the vocabulary in that movie is. Immane! Oraculate! Auspicatory! So many of what my dad used to call 50¢ words.

So I went home and spent a few hours making this, a list of words found in the dialogue of Network, ranked by their estimated frequency in the English language. I used a Python library called wordfreq (which, sadly, was deprecated last fall, a decision its creator partially attributed to the prevalence of AI slop making it impossible to analyze human word usage after 2022).

I decided to add definitions to my list of esoteric Network words, which turned out to be an interesting challenge. Rare words are… rare! Every dictionary API has some different subset of them. It took a few to flesh out the list.

The wordfreq data was so compelling that I decided to keep pulling the thread on this, and after a few late nights I am very happy to share Lettervoxd. Lettervoxd is a tool that extracts esoteric words from about 25,000 movies from the past century. It lists (nearly) every one-in-a-billion word that can be found in the giant corpus of subtitles I downloaded from Open Subtitles.

More details, as well as links and images, at Josh’s page. When you go to the Lettervoxd site, click on a word to see the movies it’s been used in. What a great thing to create!

Episode 2648: Tell ’im ’e’s Dreaming

Tuesday, 15 July 2025 09:11
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Episode 2648: Tell ’im ’e’s Dreaming

Sometimes players get into discussing minutiae that is unimportant or irrelevant to the game situation. Particularly if they start trying to apply real world knowledge or thinking to situations where their characters wouldn't know or do such things.

A trick you can use in such cases is to change the situation so that their discussion becomes irrelevant. After all, enemies aren't stopping to listen to the heroes discuss probability or quantum mechanics or whatever. They're just going to keep attacking, or closing to combat range, or blowing up the hospital, or whatever their plan is. So have that happen and just keep describing events getting progressively worse until your players pay attention and start doing something.

aurilee writes:

Commentary by memnarch (who has not seen the movie)

*Squint*

*Zoom-in*

Wow, there really is a dot there. I wonder if that's actually this starfighter; that's extremely zoomed in if so. Rey's practically got Legolas eyes to see that far away. Though if the Force vibe gets stronger as the dot comes around the mountain, she wouldn't need to care what kind of ship it is to know that's the bad news.

Either way, if it is Kylo's starfighter, I wonder why he's coming in so early. Only Chewie's been captured so far; everyone else can still fight back!

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Pookila.

Monday, 14 July 2025 13:23
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A news story introduced me to the word pookila, referring to what apparently is more commonly called the New Holland mouse. Naturally I was curious about the word, but it doesn’t appear to be in any dictionaries, not even Wiktionary. A little googling got me to this Australian government document, which says:

Since circa 1995, the word ‘Pookila’ has been associated with the species. ‘Pookila’ is derived from the Ngarigo word for ‘mouse’ – bugila (Braithwaite et al. 1995; Hercus n.d.), although it deviates from traditional Ngarigo pronunciation (Braithwaite et al. 1995). The assignation of the word Pookila to the species was part of an initiative by the CSIRO to provide ‘Australian names for Australian rodents’ and to avoid the undesirable associations of introduced vermin often attached to the words ‘rat’ and ‘mouse’ that impede the conservation of native rodents due to negative public perception and associated challenges of securing funding for conservation (Braithwaite et al. 1995). However, the species is not known to have occurred on Ngarigo Country, and it is unclear why the language was chosen in Braithwaite et al. (1995) for the species. However, the name has since been associated with the species across its range, and the word is included on the Australian Government’s SPRAT database.

The word ‘tuwaranga’ means ‘mouse’ in palawa kani, the language of Tasmanian Aboriginal people (Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, 2023).

The naming strategy implemented by the Recovery Plan that aims to respect all Aboriginal names for the species (where known) will use a local name for local projects if this is identified and preferred by the Aboriginal community. Pookila will be used secondarily in broader communications about the local project to facilitate broader understanding of which species is being discussed.

Setting aside minor mysteries (why is bugila in itals and ‘tuwaranga’ in quotes? why is Pookila spelled with a capital letter?), this is extremely interesting; I certainly approve of trying to provide everyday names for creatures rather than forcing everyone to use Linnaean terminology, but I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just use bugila rather than a distorted version. (Also, the effort to avoid “mouse” seems silly to me.) Does anyone know anything about how it “deviates from traditional Ngarigo pronunciation”?

Separately, I’m disturbed by “palawa kani, the language of Tasmanian Aboriginal people.” In the first place, it is not actually a language as normally understood: “Palawa kani is a constructed language created by the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre as a composite Tasmanian language, based on reconstructed vocabulary from the limited accounts of the various languages once spoken by the Aboriginal people of what is now Tasmania (palawa kani: Lutruwita).” In other words, it’s a conlang extrapolating from material like “five words, one sentence, and a short song.” It is certainly not “the language of Tasmanian Aboriginal people.” And why the devil is the name written without capital letters? Are they considered capitalist? All elucidation is welcome.

Global Latin.

Sunday, 13 July 2025 21:21
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New Perspectives in Global Latin: Second Conference on Latin as a Vehicle of Cultural Exchange Beyond Europe, edited by Elisa Della Calce, Paola Mocella, and Simone Mollea (de Gruyter, 2025), includes intriguing titles like “Afonso Mendes, the Catholic Patriarch of Ethiopia, and His Debates With Salomon: A Jew From Vienna, at the Court of the King of Ethiopia” by Leonardo Cohen and Paul Rodrigue, “Deities, Demons or Decoration? Asian Religions in Two Jesuit Latin Martyr Epics” by Yasmin Haskell, “From Martini to Prémare: Early analytic Descriptions of Mandarin Chinese in Latin” by Anna Di Toro and Luisa M. Paternicò, “Medical Knowledge in the Latin Language in 18th-Century Korea” by Kukjin Kim, and “Mercury and the Argonauts in Japan: Myths and Martyrs in Jesuit Neo-Latin” by Akihiko Watanabe. Everybody knows about Latin’s ubiquity in Europe, but it’s remarkable to see how far it spread. And the book is open-access!

Episode 2647: Pwned For Pound

Sunday, 13 July 2025 09:11
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Episode 2647: Pwned For Pound

Cry "Havoc!", and let slip the dogs of yore.

Characters in games can have pets too.

Or they could be pets. Imagine a game where everyone is playing a domestic cat or dog. Or perhaps a bird. Something's going on in the neighbourhood and the humans are blissfully unaware, so it's up to the pets to go out and fix things up.

aurilee writes:

Commentary by memnarch (who has not seen the movie)

I guess Dagger Bar is a franchise. Or is a fixation of Jim's. Or maybe both at this point!

Time for Chewie and Rey to get captured then? It seems odd that it would only be Chewbacca that gets noticed and captured as he's not Force Sensitive at all. And if the Knights of Ren are actively looking for everyone, why wouldn't they have spotted Rey as well?

Hopefully the whole group doesn't get captured. That'd cause a big mess of the plot from what I can see, and we've hardly gone anywhere as it is!

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Samatar’s Olondria.

Saturday, 12 July 2025 22:03
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As I wrote here, one of my birthday presents this year was Sofia Samatar’s A Stranger in Olondria (and I note with a shudder that that Amazon page says “A Stranger in Olondria: a novel (Olondria, 1)” — please don’t let this be yet another trilogy!); I’ve just finished it, and as so often happens I have conflicting reactions. I’ll start by saying it’s a good novel, very well written, and anyone who enjoys Tolkien-derived fantasy should love it. The problem is that I am not one of those people; it is rare for a person to enjoy sf and fantasy equally, and I was a science fiction fan from the beginning. Yes, I liked Tolkien, but that was a one-off, just as my enjoyment of My Fair Lady does not make me a fan of musicals. Here’s the opening paragraph, which gives an excellent idea of what the book is like:

As I was a stranger in Olondria, I knew nothing of the splendor of its coasts, nor of Bain, the Harbor City, whose lights and colors spill into the ocean like a cataract of roses. I did not know the vastness of the spice markets of Bain, where the merchants are delirious with scents, I had never seen the morning mists adrift above the surface of the green Illoun, of which the poets sing; I had never seen a woman with gems in her hair, nor observed the copper glinting of the domes, nor stood upon the melancholy beaches of the south while the wind brought in the sadness from the sea. Deep within the Fayaleith, the Country of the Wines, the clarity of light can stop the heart: it is the light the local people call “the breath of angels” and is said to cure heartsickness and bad lungs. Beyond this is the Balinfeil, where, in the winter months, the people wear caps of white squirrel fur, and in the summer months the goddess Love is said to walk and the earth is carpeted with almond blossom. But of all this I knew nothing. I knew only of the island where my mother oiled her hair in the glow of a rush candle, and terrified me with stories of the Ghost with No Liver, whose sandals slap when he walks because he has his feet on backwards.

This is a poet’s prose, complex and polished and singing, and I can see why the reviews say things like “elegant language,” “the prose […] is glorious,” and “a poetic and elegant style.” The problem for me is that I quickly become impatient with it; like rococo painting and elaborate cocktails, it’s too rich for my taste. It’s not that I want stripped-down, “Hemingwayesque” prose — heaven forfend! But μηδὲν ἄγαν, as they say; if the merchants are delirious with scents and the earth is carpeted with almond blossom, I’m likely to take a hike to a less redolent vicinity. It’s a good example of what Bakhtin called chronotope: a fantasy novel is supposed to have melancholy beaches and light called “the breath of angels,” not to mention places named Bain and Illoun and Fayaleith — that’s how you know you’re in the right kind of novel. But me, I’m a stranger in Olondria; I’d rather be on Mars, even the impossible Mars of Philip K. Dick’s Martian Time-Slip, which I recently read with as much pleasure as the first time around, half a century ago.

Having gotten that off my chest, I will quickly add that I adjusted to the delirious scents and robed priests and quaint festivals, and eventually found the plot gripping and the resolution moving; I particularly enjoyed the interpolation of stories within the main story, which work well (and are told less ornately). But it’s still not my kind of chronotope. Oh, and one thing that kept irritating me was the impossibility of knowing how all those place names are pronounced. Is Bain /beɪn/ or /baɪn/? Is Tyom monosyllabic /tjom/ or anglicized /ˈtaɪɒm/ or, say, /ˈtyom/, with an ü sound in the first syllable? I guess most readers don’t care about such things, being content to absorb the fantastically foreign-looking names by eye, but dammit, I need to know how to say them. That’s one good thing about Tolkien: he took care to let you know how his various languages worked and how to say their words.

Winging It.

Friday, 11 July 2025 21:17
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Jen in Edinburgh wrote me to say she’d been wondering “why we say that we’re going to ‘wing’ something […] I have actually looked it up in the OED and found out – but it wasn’t a reason I expected at all, so if it surprised me, maybe it will surprise other commenters!” I looked it up and it surprised me too, so I herewith share it. OED s.v. wing v.:

II.11. Theatrical slang. transitive. To study (a part) in or about the wings, having undertaken it at short notice; also intransitive. Hence in to wing it; now usually in slang use (originally and chiefly U.S.), to improvise; to speak or act without preparation, to make statements on unstudied matters (see also quot. 1950).

1885 ‘To wing’..indicates the capacity to play a rôle without knowing the text, and the word itself came into use from the fact that the artiste frequently received the assistance of a special prompter, who..stood..screened..by a piece of the scenery or a wing.
Stage 21 August 12/2

1886 In the event of an artiste being suddenly called upon to play a part of which he knows nothing..he frequently has to ‘wing’ the part.
Stage Gossip 70

1933 He must give a performance by ‘winging it’—that is, by refreshing his memory for each scene in the wings before he goes on to play it.
P. Godfrey, Back-stage iii. 39

1950 Wing it, vb., to lay off an approximate 90° angle by eye.
American Speech vol. 25 238/1
[…]

1979 Mr. Trudeau came without notes, choosing to wing it, and struggled..unsuccessfully to establish Mr. Leger’s resemblance to an owl.
Globe & Mail (Toronto) 22 January 8/2

It makes sense, but I don’t think I would ever have guessed it. Thanks, Jen!

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